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Please keep checking back as I will start adding more items soon.
Items
For Sale
Cord
Balls & Adjusters
NEW - My cord
pendant adjuster project, as well as a good history about them.
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Socket
& Electrical Manufacturer's Items And Their History
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GECO
Sockets
NEW
- This section will allow you to date
and learn how to tell one GECO socket from the other.
Hubbell
This is where this site started from. Since this page
was done, there has been much more Hubbell history and information
found which will make for a complete redesign of this page and section
in the soon future.
Hubbell Patents
This section has some early patent research on Hubbell.
It is mostly complete with only a few missing patents which will be
added in when this section is re done into the new format
Wheeler Reflector
Co.
NEW - A history of The
Wheeler Reflector Company and tips on how to tell if mirror has been
replaced on a shade
Other Manufacturers
This section is a lot of incomplete
work and will be updated shortly. For now it serves to give you some
extended information on some companies, but will be a much better
tool when it is complete
NEC
This section is everything you ever wanted to know about the National
Electrical Code (NEC) but had no one to ask. Downloads of old NEC's,
meetings and much extended information is provided.
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Tutorial
And Early Lighting History
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The Lighting Time Table
To
read the entire tutorial, you can just click on the first link and
then continue to the next section at the bottom of each page. Or,
you can select links below of interest to you.
PRE 1900 SECTION
Overcoming Obstacles
About Early Electric Lighting, Generators, Arc Lamps,
The First Edison Socket, Menlo Park, etc.
The
First Fixtures
About The Start Of The First Incandescent Lighting
Fixtures
Light
Reflection
About Early Light Bulbs And Candle Power vs. WATTS
Edison-Bergmann
About Sigmund Bergmann And The Start Of Bergmann
And Company Lighting Fixtures
Lighting
Break Down
A Quick Break Down Of Different Lighting Time Periods
Styles
1881 to 1884
Bergmann Fixtures And Styles
Other
Pre-1888 Styles
About Early Companies That Sold Lighting Systems
And The Fixtures That They Sold With Their Lighting Systems
The
U.S. Elect. Co.
The United States Electric Company History And Early
Items
The
Brush Elect. Co.
The Brush Electric Company History And Early Items
Thomson-Houston
The Thomson-Houston Electric Company History And
Early Items
Westinghouse
About The Westinghouse Manufacturing Company History
And Early Mergers
Mid
1880's Styles
About The Start Of Electrical Supply Houses and
how new lighting styles came about
Pre
1900 Sockets
About Early Light Sockets And How To Tell The Difference
1887
New Items
1888
New Items
1890
New Items
1891
New Items
1892
New Items
1893
New Items
1894-1896
Items
1897
New Items
1898
New Items
1899
New Items
Above are catalog items sold in different years. There is no space
to duplicate items, so only new and unique items from each year
are shown. You would need to view the catalogs for yourself to be
complete as I am only highlighting items. You can view catalogs
here.
EXTRA INFO
Victor
Shade Holder
About The Victor Shade Holder, Atwood And The Standard
Holder
I.P.
Frink 1899 Items
About
Frink & Wheeler
New
Wheeler Inverted
Three Links About Mirror Reflector Manufacturers
And Their Items And History.
Wheeler Reflector
Co.
NEW - A history of The
Wheeler Reflector Company and tips on how to tell if mirror has
been replaced on a shade
Early Desk Lamps
Some Help In Telling Them Apart
Vitrite And Luminoid
About The Vitrite Holders And Early Vitrite History
Brush-Swan Holder
About Brush-Swan Shade Holders
Cord
Balls
My cord pendant adjuster project, as well as a good
history about them.
POST 1900 SECTION
About
1900 Styles
This section covers a basic into into the 1900 section
covering information about the 1899 transition, electrical code
changes, lighting influence, sharing and licensing of patents and
then into the new section of electrical specialty manufacturers,
Electrical Specialty Manufacturers
Harvey
Hubbell
This section covers some early history periods of
pre Hubbell-Grier, Hubbell-Grier, Harvey Hubbell, Hubbell Company.
It also covers a number of items that helped change lighting styles,
Benjamin
This section covers some early history periods for
the Benjamin Electric MFG. Co, as well as a small section on Dale
and The Federal Electric Company
Dale
Federal
Electric
This post 1900 section continues to be under current
construction
Please Check Back.
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Hubbell
Sockets
Harvey
Hubbell II, was the first to patent a pull chain style socket.
A drawing from the socket patent August 11th of 1896 patent
number 565541
which is shown to your right with the old standard one piece shell.
This socket came with an internal pulley switch operated by a silk
tuna line pull cord that came with a ball at the end.
Some time after Jan 28th 1901 the Company was known as THE HUBBELL
- GRIER ELECT. CO. Sockets made in 1901 were marked with this Company
name.
The Hubbell-Grier Elect Company name was also used in the first product
catalogue in 1901. As shown in the pictures below, sockets are called
"H-G Pull Sockets".

It is unknown if Grier was a business partner in the early years,
but by Sept 4th 1901 no more mention of Grier is made and sockets
are simply marked "Harvey Hubbell". More
about this topic...
Harvey Hubbell incorporated in the State of Connecticut in the year
1905 under the name "Harvey Hubbell INC.".
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A
full history of the Hubbell Company from 1888 to date can be seen
on their web site at: http://www.hubbell.com/history.htm
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In
the same year, the Company registered a trademark. They selected the
'globe logo' that had been used by Harvey Hubbell on his business
stationary as early as 1901. This trademark (a sphere with meridian
lines and the name "HUBBELL" centered within) is frequently
seen on sockets that came out after 1909 and are also the most common
found today. The mark on these sockets is sometimes referred to as
"the globe logo".
Harvey Hubbell always had new ideas and solutions to problems that
existed with other manufacturer's designs. He was one to see an unnecessary
problem with something and take it upon himself to design his own
invention that fixed the problems.
Between 1896 and 1909 he was granted 45 patents on a wide variety
of electrical products. We have archived over 100 Hubbell patents
for you at this link. |
Some possible known pull chain switch and shell configurations are shown
below.
The research test bed of shells and switches has been selected from over
one hundred different examples obtained from at least 80 different sources.
The rarity is based on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being
the most rare)
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DATE(S) |
Description
of pull chain socket models and patent dates |
RARITY |
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First
model with or without patent date on the shell.
This is the earliest and extremely rare Hubbell pull socket.
This model was patented August 11 1896 shown to your left.
It had a tuna line silk cord which was known for breakage.
This was replaced with a chain In 1900 with a new socket design that
had a wider shell.
This new socket type was also insulated better internally, which allowed
for the stronger brass pull chain.
If you have this model we would like to purchase
it from you. |
RARITY
10
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Manufactured
Oct, 1899
To
June, 1905

The Shell Is
Marked With Two Patent Dates
Aug.11.96
May 8.00
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Hubbell
Thomson-Houston
Style Socket
Patent
Approved May 8th 1900
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This model only has two patent dates on the shell. Aug.11.96 &
May 8.00
It is assumed that the lid screw threads into the body of the shell
by use of the threaded rivet hole as in the 1901 patent.
Note that there is a 1903 version of this shell and socket that is
marked with all four patent dates. There is also a 1905 version in
a new rivet cap shell with all patent dates marked Harvey Hubbell
Inc. This shell must had been made and sold up until mid 1905 when
it would have been replaced with the Insulating Screw Shell. The screw
shell was made for for use with Thomson-Houston lamps. The June 1905
patent number was 817484.
E-Z IDENTIFICATION
It
will only have the two patent dates.
- The
bell shaped guide is attached to the shell (not the switch inside)
- This
version will have a heavy pull chain compared to newer sockets.
- It
will have a flat square tip on the acorn (as shown on your right)
instead of the distinct point that later models had.
- There
is no embossed word HUBBELL under the chain guide as on common
1903 shells.
- It
will have the older Thompson-Houston style socket
The Thompson-Houston center is shown to your left.
Dates 1900 - If it has two patent dates
If you have this 1900 model (or one
with less than 4 patent dates) we would like to purchase it from
you.
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The
two sockets above used the older Thompson-Houston style sockets.
By the year 1900 the Edison screw type base owned over 60% of the
market. It was for this reason that by the year 1900 almost all
socket manufacturers chose to use the Edison screw base as their
standard. Adapters were made for the Thompson-Houston style sockets
so that they could easily adapt to the Edison style bulb.
1901 marks the year that Hubbell came out with a patent for their
own Edison style socket shown below.
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Edison Style Screw Base
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Manufactured
Jan, 1901
To
July, 1901

The Shell Is Marked With Three Patent Dates
Aug.11.96
May 8.00
July 30.01
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HUBBELL-GRIER
- First Edison Style Socket
Patent
Approved July
30.01
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This
model has three patent dates on the shell. Aug.11th 1896, May 8th
1900 and July 30th 1901.
It is marked "HUBBELL-GRIER ELECT. CO." above the
patent dates as shown to your right.
The lid screw threads into the body of the shell by use of a threaded
rivet hole as shown in the picture to your left.
E-Z
IDENTIFICATION
This
shell has a threaded hole on the BODY and the CAP has a punched
hole.
- It
will have the three patent dates
- It
is marked HUBBELL-GRIER ELECT CO.
- The
bell shaped guide is attached to the shell (not the switch inside)
- It
uses mica for socket switch insulation with a flat tip screw center.
- This
version will have a heavy pull chain compared to newer sockets.
- It
will have a flat square tip on the acorn (as shown on your right)
instead of the distinct point that later models had.
- There
is no embossed word HUBBELL under the guide as on common 1903
shells.
The Mica center is shown to your left.
Dates 1901 - The shell marks were not made after 1901
If you have this model we would like
to purchase it from you.
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Manufactured
July, 1901
To
May, 1902

The Shell Is Marked With Four Patent Dates
Aug.11.96
May 8.00
July 30.01
Feby.18.02
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HARVEY
HUBBELL NO INC
(Full Socket)
THE REAL 1902 PATENT
Patent
Approved Feb
18 1902
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This
model has four patent dates on the shell. Aug.11th 1896, May 8th 1900,
July 30th 1901 and Feb.18th
1902.
It is marked "HARVEY HUBBELL" above the patent dates
as shown to your right.
The 1902 patent was added for the entire socket. The 1901 patent was
only used to show how the cap screw threaded into the base. This 1902
patent was the first patent to describe the switch. Other then this
fact; The shell and switch are identical to the version above, with
the exceptions of the "HUBBELL-GRIER ELECT CO." being replaced
with "HARVEY HUBBELL" and the new patent date being added
to the shell. Since the 1901 patent was so short lived, it may have
had something to do with (or a convenient method of reason) in getting
rid of the "GRIER" name.
E-Z
IDENTIFICATION
This
shell has a threaded hole on the BODY and the CAP has a punched
hole.
- It
will have the four patent dates
- "HARVEY
HUBBELL" above the patent dates
- The
bell shaped guide is attached to the shell (not the switch inside)
- It
uses mica for socket switch insulation with a flat tip screw center.
- This
version will have a heavy pull chain compared to newer sockets.
- It
will have a flat square tip on the acorn (as shown on your right)
in place of the distinct point that later models had.
- There
is no embossed word HUBBELL under the chain guide as on common
1903 shells.
The Mica center is shown to your left.
Dates 1902 - This socket shell was not made after 1902
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HARVEY
HUBBELL NO INC (1903 SOCKET SHELL)
1903 PATENT - MARKED 1902
Patent
Approved Feb 17 1903
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As
above, this model also has four patent dates on the shell. Aug.11th
1896, May 8th 1900, July 30th 1901 and Feb.18th
1902.
It is marked "HARVEY HUBBELL" above the patent dates
as shown to your right. After incorporating in 1905 this mark was
changed to "HARVEY HUBBELL INC."
Unlike the shell above, the lid screw threads into the shell cap by
use of a hole strip which is riveted to the inside of the cap. This
is shown in the picture to your left.
The 1901 patent date did not apply
to this shell. There was a new patent in 1903 that shows this new
method of attaching the shell cap (Feb 17th 1903 pat no. 720808) which
was not stamped on this new shell style. In fact as of the 1902 patent
Hubbell rarely updated patent dates on their shells, even though newer
patents had come out. During patent research I have found only one
case so far where a new patent date was used on a shell dated 1908
which had all of the patent dates but missing the "1901"
date which was replaced with the new cap patent number. In later years,
patent dates were done away with entirely and replaced with the Hubbell
Trademark Logo.
E-Z
IDENTIFICATION
This
shell has the threaded hole in the CAP and the BODY has the punched
hole.
- It
has four patent dates
- It
is marked HARVEY HUBBELL (without the trailing "INC")
- The
bell shaped guide is attached to the shell (not the switch inside)
- It
uses mica for socket switch insulation with a flat tip screw center.
- Early
examples of this shell version have the heavy pre-1904 acorn,
while later examples will have a post 1904 chain finial.
- The
embossed word HUBBELL is under the chain guide.
The Mica center is shown to your left.
Dates 1902 - 1905 and shell mark not made after 1905
Note that this shell was sold out of overstock well after
1905 and is sometimes found with different switch
types.
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Manufactured
Between
1904
To
1909

The Shell Is Marked With Four Patent Dates
Aug.11.96
May 8.00
July 30.01
Feby.18.02
The shell above was based
on the patent shown below
New Chain Guide For Pull Sockets
RARITY
07
Patent # 817485
Applied For
07/14/1905
Approved On 04/10/1906
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HARVEY
HUBBELL NO INC - PROTOTYPE THREADED CHAIN GUIDE
(1903 SOCKET SHELL)
- Patent
Approved Feb 17 1903
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As
above, this model also has four patent dates on the shell. Aug.11th
1896, May 8th 1900, July 30th 1901 and Feb.18th
1902.
It is marked "HARVEY HUBBELL" above the patent dates
as shown to your right. After incorporating in 1905 this mark was
changed to "HARVEY HUBBELL INC."
This
was a special offer of a factory installed patent 817485
extended guide. There was not a patent for this special modified shell
version of the giude. This version worked by having a factory installed
threaded hole on the shell that the guide screwed into. This
version is shown in the Hubbell 1906 catalog. Early versions of this
design (as shown to your left) have no threads on the guide itself.
Versions from late 1905 started threading the end of the chain guide
tube. This invention was replaced in 1909 with a new version that
attached directly on the switch which came with much stronger connections.
This
new beta guide would have allowed different lengths of guides for
those using it on a fixture, but the longer it gets, the less stable
it would become. The guide shown above in the beta version is thin
brass that bends and deforms easily. When it is screwed in tight,
it would not be a difficult task to break it off the threaded shell
body making it unusable. This was the reason for adding the threads
on the guide tube in the 1905 version as shown in the hubbell 1906
catalog picture to your right.
The invention shown on your left also had an added bonus of being
able to attach over existing guides of other socket manufactures.
E-Z
IDENTIFICATION
This
shell has the threaded hole in the CAP.
- It
has four patent dates
- It
is marked HARVEY HUBBELL (without the trailing "INC")
- The
bell shaped guide is attached to the shell which is removable
by unscrewing it from a threaded hole on the shell body.
- It
uses mica switch insulation with a flat tip screw center.
- Early
examples of this shell version have the heavy pre-1904 acorn,
while later examples will have a post 1904 chain finial.
- The
embossed word HUBBELL is under the chain guide.
The Mica center is shown to your left.
Dates 1902 - 1905 and shell mark not made after 1905
Note that this shell was sold out of overstock well after
1905 and is sometimes found with different switch
types.
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Manufactured
1905
To
1909

The Shell Is Marked With Four Patent Dates
Aug.11.96
May 8.00
July 30.01
Feby.18.02
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HARVEY
HUBBELL INC
(1903
SOCKET SHELL)
Patent
Approved Feb
17 1903
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This
model has four patent dates on the shell Aug.11th 1896, May 8th 1900,
July 30th 1901 and Feb.18th
1902.
It is marked "HARVEY HUBBELL INC" above the patent
dates as shown to your right. After incorporating in 1905 this mark
was added to the shell.
As in the example above,The 1901 patent does
not apply to this shell.
The only difference between this and the example above, is the "INC"
being added to the shell. Since this is a latter example of the socket,
it is commonly found with Post-1904 acorn finials and later switches
such as the 1-2 and A2 switch types.
E-Z
IDENTIFICATION
This
shell has the threaded hole in the CAP and the BODY has the punched
hole.
- It
has four patent dates
- It
is marked HARVEY HUBBELL INC
- The
bell shaped guide is attached to the shell (not the switch inside)
- It
uses mica for socket switch insulation with a flat tip screw center.
- Most
all of these models will have a post 1904 chain finial.
- The
embossed word HUBBELL is under the chain guide.
The Mica center is shown to your left.
Dates 1905 - 1909 and shell mark not made after 1909
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Manufactured
March 1907
To
1917
The Shell Is
Marked With FIVE Patent Dates
Aug.11.96
May 8.
00
Feb.18.02
Jan.14.08
Oct.13.08
Note that the patent date July 30.01 is not on this shell.
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HARVEY
HUBBELL INC - 1st
Without Chain Guide Attached To Shell
(1907 SOCKET SHELL)
- Patent
Approved Jan 14 1908
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This
is the first socket example without the chain guide being attached
to the shell. This model was right before they stopped using patent
dates on their shells. This
socket shell screws together by means of a guide collar. It did not
require any screws to attach the cap.
The cap and shell have different patents that were applied for the
same day, though they were approved on different dates.
The new shell cap used two sets of threads in the cap wire hole with
a screw connecting them. When the screw is tightened, the threads
tighten down around the fixture's threads causing it to lock solid
into the top of the shell cap.
For
more information see the switch types section here
E-Z IDENTIFICATION
The
shell screws together.
- It
has five patent dates
- It
is marked HARVEY HUBBELL INC
- The
bell shaped guide is NOT attached to the shell (it is on the switch)
- It
uses mica to insulate the switch.
- It
will use a post 1904 chain finial.

The Mica center is shown to your left.
Dates Post March 1907
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Manufactured
July 1909
To
Early 1910
The Shell Is
Marked With Four Patent Dates
Aug.11.96
May 8.00
July 30.01
Feby.18.02
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HARVEY
HUBBELL INC - No
Chain
Guide Attached To Shell
(1909 SOCKET SHELL)
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This
model was right before they stopped using patent dates on their shells
and has all four patent dates on the shell. Aug.11th 1896, May 8th
1900, July 30th 1901 and Feb.18th
1902
and is marked Harvey Hubbell INC. As in the example above,The patent
dates on the shell do not apply
to this socket.
For
more information on this mark see the switch types section here
E-Z IDENTIFICATION
This
shell has the threaded hole in the CAP and the BODY has the punched
hole.
- It
has four patent dates
- It
is marked HARVEY HUBBELL INC
- The
bell shaped guide is NOT attached to the shell (it is on the switch)
- It
does not use mica to insulate the switch as the older switches
did.
- It
will use a post 1904 chain finial.
There is now no Mica used as shown to your left. This switch uses
the wide tongue.
Dates Post July 1909
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Manufactured
July 1909
To
1912
The Shell Is
Marked
With the Hubbell
Globe Design
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HUBBELL
LOGO - No
Chain Guide Attached To Shell
(1909 SOCKET SHELL)
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This is the first socket example where Hubbell stopped using patent
dates marked on the shells. The switch used for this model was still
a prototype using some of the same parts from the older switches.
For more information on this mark see the switch types section here
Marked 50 C.P. is to be dated pre 1910. If the shell is marked 250
W, it is a post 1910 version.
Another easy way to tell the difference
between these early switches is to look under the tongue. If there
is a large screw under a long WIDE tongue. (as shown below), it is
an older 1909 prototype switch. If it uses a nut and not a screw,
it is always a newer version dating post 07/21/1910 as in patent 994588.
Or If the tongue is more narrow then shown below, it could also be
a newer switch using a screw as in patent number 994518.
Also, older prototype switches from 1909 are also always marked on
the top inside of the ceramic switch with the number 100 as
shown here.
E-Z
IDENTIFICATION
This
shell has the threaded hole in the CAP and the BODY has the punched
hole.
- It
has NO patent dates.
- It
is marked with the Hubbell Logo with 50 C.P. 250V
- The
bell shaped guide is NOT attached to the shell (it is on the switch)
- It
does not use mica to insulate the switch as the older switches
did.
- It
will use a post 1904 chain finial.
- There
is now no Mica used as shown to your left. This switch uses the
wide tongue.
Dates Post July 1909
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IMAGE
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DATING HINTS -
Finials
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DATE |
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Hubbell
used this finial on the first pull socket that used the tuna line
silk cord .
Bryant also used the Hubbell design as shown on page 24 of the 1895
Bryant catalog.
Hubbell
Catalog No. 25 (45 Year Anniversary Advertisement)
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Bryant 1895 Catalog
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1896
To
1899
RARITY
10
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Hubbell
used this ornate acorn on their 1900 patent socket design.
It is still found in a Western Electric catalog dated 1901 that
offers a Hubbell socket pictured with this finial design. |
| Western
Electric Catalog |
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1899
To
1901
RARITY
9.5
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Hubbell
and some other sockets made before 1904 use these acorn finials.
It is easy to tell the difference between these and other acorns,
because this acorn is heavy and solid while others are hollow and
weigh almost nothing.
The tip at the bottom is round and does NOT come to a sharp point
at the end. This rounded tip is flat at the bottom as if it was
hammered and is almost always sharp to the touch around the edges.
This tip sticks out almost 1/16th of an inch.
Note: There are some bad reproductions of this finial. Please see
our pull chain section for some examples of these and how to tell
the difference.
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1901
To
1904
RARITY
7.0
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These
are hollow much lighter finials with a distinct point at the end.
These do not have flat tips at the bottom like those before 1904 or
the dented tip of those after 1909.
The point is sharp and distinct and normally sticks out almost 1/16th
of an inch.
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1904
TO
1909
RARITY
4.0
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These
finials are the most common seen today, coming from the more common
Hubbell sockets without the chain guide attached to the shell..
The acorns are hollow just like those above, but without with a distinct
point at the end. These finials have more of a dented or punched out
tip.
The point is not sharp or distinct at all and normally sticks out
just enough to give it the form and appearance of a tip. |
AFTER
1909
RARITY
2.0
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These
acorns unscrew. Like many other examples of Hubbell's prototypes,
the invention was not patented until the final product was decided
on. In this case the removable acorns shown below in patent 1504761.
A special thanks goes to Don Shay from "Don's
Lamps" who provided this example. |
AFTER
1903
&
BEFORE
1910
RARITY
10
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Though
the patent for this finial was applied for in 1923, there are earlier
examples of crimp on acorns predating 1909. However this example
that uses the slide in clamp is most common and is is dated post 1922.
This type of finial was used for different reasons.
As a replacement: There was an ad put out by Hubbell that stated "Extra
acorns can be furnished so that they may be fastened to chain by the
use of ordinary wireman's pliers". This finial was also used
for hard to get to areas such as a candle socket or cylinder lamp.
Many of these hard to get into areas were only a few inches from the
hole to the socket. However these became quite common and began to
be used on newer sockets as a standard.
To
see if you have the slide in clamp model, you can squeeze the clamp
tight around the ball with your fingers. Now pull up softly. If it
is the 1922 model it will slide upward as shown.
Tassels using this method started being offered late in 1923 though
they became more common during the indicating pull socket era of 1926
to 1930. RARITY 2.0
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Indicating
pulls started being used in 1926 and shown in the patent for the Indicating
Pull Socket patent no. 1736285.
The Indicating Pull Socket was one of Harvey Hubbell's last inventions.
He died on December 17, 1927. This patent was approved Nov 19th 1929
after his death. His son Harvey Hubbell III, succeeded him as President
of Harvey Hubbell, INC.
The indicating
pull worked by crimping a larger brass ball cover, over one of the
pull chain balls close up to the switch. The switch was designed to
hold back some of the chain in the "off" position and release
it in the "on" position. Depending on how close that you
put the ball to the switch, it could cause the ball to be appear hidden
when the switch was off and visible when turned on.
Even though you may find these indicating chains on non-indicating
sockets, the chain (if factory installed) dates your item to post
1926 which is when the pull was invented.
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AFTER
1926
RARITY
1.0
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DATING
HINTS - Handel Tag
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Handel
Sheet Brass Tag
Though
the Handel lamp Company is known to have used some Bryant sockets,
they almost exclusively used Hubbell on most of their lamps.
In some rare cases you can find Hubbell and Bryant sockets signed
with a Handel tag. These tags are made from sheet brass and embossed
from the rear. The Handel style of marking shown to your right is
after 1910 using the two stars. If the mark does not have the stars,
it would be a tag made before 1910.
Any lamps that you come across with sockets that have the Handel
tag with the two stars is to be dated after 1910. The sockets sometimes
can date earlier. We have come across a few 1904 sockets with these
Handel tags (pictured on the right) which only means that Handel
put some of these tags on older socket inventory.
Lamps tagged without the stars are to be dated before 1910
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DATING
HINTS - UNO Filter Threads
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UNO
FILTER THREADS - Post 1914
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All
of the previous shell versions used a raised bead around the
bottom of the shell like the one shown on your right. Either
a shade or shade holder called a 'filter' was attached to
the socket shell using either a threaded ring like the one
shown to your left which was mounted over this bead. Or sometimes
a screw clamp filter that was clamped on the tube of the socket
shell.
1914 marks the year that sockets with the new UNO threads
(shown below) started being put directly on the socket tubes
in place of the bead.
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There
was a lot of old beaded shell stock, so these type shells would
have still been used on items for several more years. However new
designed shells of this era started using UNO threads.
Any sockets that you come across that have the UNO threads like
those shown below, are to be dated after 1914.
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Raised
Bead
Most times 1914 and before
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UNO Threads
Always Late 1914 and After
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DATING
HINTS - Hubbell Patents
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HUBBELL
PATENTS
In
some cases patents can be a good tool for dating objects.
There
are some things that you will need to watch for when using patents
for
dates, but for the most part when it comes to Hubbell you are safer
using this section rather then going by only the dates found on
items.
- There
are some cases where old or incorrect dates were used on shells:
This could cause you to date the item incorrectly with the date
on the item when it was in fact a much later patent.
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Cases of 'patent applied for' taking up to three years to get
approved:
This could cause you to date the item three
years newer, when in fact it was sold to the public three years
earlier while in the patent applied for stage. Keep in mind in
these cases, it can help date it older if the date is not on the
item, but newer if it is.
- Cases
where parts or methods are being used already, but not actually
described in an official patent until years later:
An
example of this would be where a feature is displayed in a diagram
drawn for one patent in 1906. It already may have been a common method
used on this types of item, or something used on another item type
already for years. Now lets say in 1910 the method or part is actually
described in the writing of the patent. Because it is now being described
it has now become part of the patent, which is far different from
just being included in a previous drawing. It is sometimes helpful
to analyze the patent drawings for what was common in the era or in
the artists mind while drawing the pictures. Another part of research
that we will be adding to this site at a later date will be scans
of old paper. For example an ad placed in a newspaper on May 18th
1903 that shows a picture of an item can help us date it to that era.
For the current patent research click on the link below:
PATENT
RESEARCH
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DATING
HINTS - CERAMIC
SWITCH MARKINGS 1901 to 1909
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DATING
HINTS - CERAMIC
SWITCH MARKINGS 1909 to Post 1926
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This
section covers Hubbell switches that use these shells

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These
are the newer Hubbell models that had the chain guide
attached to the SWITCH.
There are a few common shell versions.
- The
first was the prototype which used the older riveted
shell cap. The switch was basically the old 1905-1909
switch with the chain attached to it using the new
detachable chain guide patent
943077 dated 07/23/1909 which is pictured with
this shell and switch. The next switch to come out
(not found in any of our older shell examples) was
applied for on 07/21/1910 Patent
No. 994518 This
helps us date the use of this shell
version from 1909 until late 1910 though it could
have been sold to the public as late as 1913 from
old stock. If
the shell is marked 250W, it is a post 1910 version.
- The
second example (left to right) was a Weber patent
that was used from 1910 to 1912. You can read more
about it here.
- The
next two shells were Bryant patents that Hubbell used
that were commonly called the Wrinkle or louvered
shell. You can read more about this shell design in
this section.
While
there were other shells used, these are the most common.
The switches old to new (left to right) date from 1910
well into the 1930's. The last switch in line went through
the most updates and revisions starting in 1926. The
patent was applied for by Harvey Hubbell Sept. 1926
and was approved Nov 19th 1929 after his death.
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MARKS
FOUND ON SHELLS THAT USE THESE SWITCHES
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HARVEY
HUBBELL INC. 1909 to 1910
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CURVED
FONT - HUBBELL LOGO 50 C.P.
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CURVED
FONT - HUBBELL LOGO 250W.
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HARVEY
HUBBELL INC
Dates 1909 to 1910 - The shell has patent dates on the
shell: Aug.11.96 & May 8.00 & July 30.01 Feby.18.02
: As of the 1902 patent Hubbell rarely updated patent
dates on their shells, even though newer patents had
come out. In later years, patent dates were done away
with entirely and replaced with the Hubbell Trademark
Logo.
CURVED FONT - HUBBELL LOGO 50 C.P. Dates 1910 and before
If the shell is marked 250W, it is a post 1910 version.
CURVED
FONT - HUBBELL LOGO 250W. Dates
1910 to 1926
Note
that this mark was also used on the Wrinkle
shell starting in 1910
Also note that some time after Harvey Hubbell died and
Harvey Hubbell Jr. took over that the curved font was
used on some products up until 1938. An example is Pat
No. 2116518
which was applied for 1935 and approved in 1938.
PLAIN
FONT - HUBBELL LOGO 250W. Dates
1926 and after
Note above that this plain font may not have been long
lasting.
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PLAIN
FONT - HUBBELL LOGO 250W.
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Ceramic
Switch Marks
There are many unanswered questions when it comes
to dates.
We have done our best to be sincere and fit everything
into the proper prospective. When it comes to the different
switch types, it is easy enough to figure out the order
of things. But, when it comes to actual dating there
are just to many unanswered questions.
Please keep in mind that there was old shell stock waiting
for switches to be installed into them. There is also
the possibility of people repairing or upgrading switches.
In cases like this, just finding the right fit for the
first switch pulled out of a box could have been what
was used. Then there is the dangerous person to watch
out for. There was one contact that I had in the past
that got old sockets in by the boxes. I was surprised
to see that when he got in a load of these switches
the procedure as he sat down to clean them. He would
first take all of the sockets apart, throwing all of
the switches into one box, caps in another and then
start on the shells. When he was done with his cleaning,
he would start putting together the puzzle taking no
thought of what belonged where. As long as it fit together
and looked right was all he cared about. Needless to
say sockets from a contact like this can not be used
for this type research. At the time of writing this
I have used over one hundred different examples obtained
from at least 80 different sources. As my research goes
on I will keep this page updated with changes and additions.
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TYPE
#0 Top View
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TYPE
#0 Front View
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TYPE
#0 Socket View
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Est. Date
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You
will notice that this switch is the closest to the A2
(the last switch to be used in the older shells with
the guide attached to the shell). This switch still
uses mica in the socket, which is the only (pull switch)
example found that still used mica in these newer shell
types. The top of the switch does not have a place for
the shell screw holes as it was used in a screw together
shell patent no. 876552
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This
switch has the mark 78 on the top outside and A on the
bottom inside of the ceramic.
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switch also uses the first version of the removable
chain guide patent no. 956354
applied for 05/17/1909 though it must had been used
starting in March of 1907 seeing that there are no other
patents of guides or switches that could have worked
in shell patent 876552
which was applied for on this date.
This first RARE version of the guide was screwed directly
into the ceramic as shown on your left.
The newer most common guide patent no. 943077
applied for 07/23/1909 is the one that is found on both
Hubbell and Bryant switches today.
This newer guide snapped into a bracket which is screwed
into the ceramic as shown on your right.
This type #0 switch was provided by Paul Crist the author
of the book Mosaic
Shades II
and owner of Paul
Crist Studios.
You can also read his socket tutorial here.
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TYPE
#1 Top View
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TYPE
#1 Front View
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TYPE
#1 Socket View
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Est. Date
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You
will notice that it has the same wire terminals as the
older switch types. It also uses a large screw to hold
the long wide tongue in the socket. All of the screws
and terminals are brass. Notice the groves and holes
on the sides which were there for the shell cap screws
to fit into. This switch was only used in shells that
had a cap that was held on with screws.
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1909
to 1910
Only
used in
shells with
caps that
had screws
RARITY
6.5
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This
switch always has the mark 100 on the top inside of
the ceramic. Some switches will also be marked 101 on
the bottom inside.
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TYPE
#2 Top View
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TYPE
#2 Front View
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TYPE
#2 Socket View
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Est. Date
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Notice
that the cap screw holes are gone. The terminals are
now shorter with two wings. The top ceramic screws are
now nickel (not brass). The tongue is now held in using
a lug in the place of the old screw. The tongue is also
now shorter and oval shaped. The ceramic has an oval
shaped hole for the tongue to rest in.
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1910
to 1915
Used only in
shells having
the raised
bead
RARITY
4.0
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This
switch always has the mark 111 on the top inside of
the ceramic. It will most always also be marked 112
on the bottom inside.
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TYPE
#3 Comments
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TYPE
#3 Top View
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TYPE
#3 Front View
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TYPE
#3 Socket View
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Est. Date
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Notice
that more space is given for the lamp wire to rest in
above the terminals. Also, the terminals are now only
held by one screw on the top inside of the ceramic.
The tongue is now round and it sits in a rectangle hole
where a lug is still holding it in place.
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1916
to 1923
Only used in
shells having
UNO threads
RARITY
3.0
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This
switch always has the mark 317 on the top inside of
the ceramic. It will sometimes be marked 112 on the
bottom inside.
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TYPE
#4 Comments
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TYPE
#4 Top View
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TYPE
#4 Front View
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TYPE
#4 Socket View
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Est. Date
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Notice
that even more space is now given for the lamp wire
above the terminals. This makes the center stem noticeably
more narrow. Only one of the terminal screws is now
brass, the other is nickel. The lug that was holding
the tongue has now been replaced with a rivet.
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1923
to 1926
Still uses lug
RARITY
2.0
Post
1926
uses rivet for
the tongue
RARITY
1.0
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This
switch always has the mark 317 on the top inside of
the ceramic. It will sometimes be marked 112 on the
bottom inside. It can have numerous different marks
such as boat anchors or stars.
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Depending on the revision, it will be marked on the
top tip above the wire terminals. Another mark is always
on the lower side directly under that mark on the opposite
side of the switch. Listed in order from oldest to newer
the marks will be in combinations of W-A, W-B, W-1,
W-2, W-3, W-4, 1-*, 2-*, 3-*, 4-* An example of what
the marks look like are shown to your right.
This switch will also sometimes have numbers on the
bottom outside under the socket threads.
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Example
Marked
W-3
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RARITY
1.0
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Please
take note that there are earlier versions of this model
switch that still use a lug to secure the tongue, the
rivet was added in a later revision. Another change
to this switch was the logo being stamped on the tongue
which was done about the same time as adding the rivet.
This switch unlike the others above, had more changes
made to it then any other switch. This is also the last
switch type that Harvey Hubbell designed before he died.
Harvey Hubbell Jr. took over after his father's death.
This switch stems to a patent that was applied for 09/21/1926
and approved on 11/19/1929. Harvey Hubbell passed on
December 17, 1927 and Harvey Hubbell Jr. was 26 years
old when taking over. This switch continued to be the
the standard until the mid to late 1930's when Bakelite
started to be used and pull chains were on their way
out.
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RESEARCH
- More About The Hubbell-Grier Company Name
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When
searching through Hubbell's patents, we notice that in the
early years Hubbell did not assign his patents to a Company,
though this would be a common procedure once a Company is
formed. This way the Company has total control of the patent
which also includes the responsibility of protecting it. (Note
that Harvey Hubbell officially incorporated in the State of
Connecticut in the year 1905 under the name "Harvey Hubbell
INC.")

Only
at one point in time did Harvey Hubbell ever assign one of
his patents to a Company name. As shown below in a patent
applied for on July 24th 1901 the patent no. 693799
was assigned to the THE HUBBELL - GRIER ELECT. CO. This must
have been a short lived partnership seeing that it only lasted
for about eight months. This is seen by patent no. 679316
applied for on Jan 28th 1901 being assigned to Harvey Hubbell,
patent no. 693799
applied for on July 24th 1901 assigned to Hubbell-Grier and
patent no. 701269
applied for on Sept. 4th 1901 going back to the sole "Harvey
Hubbell" with no assignor.
Not
only did the patent reflect this new Company name, but the
sockets during this time was also marked THE HUBBELL - GRIER
ELECT. CO.. Advertising also reflected this in that the "The
Hubbell-Grier Elect Company" name was also used in the
first product catalogue in 1901. As shown in the catalogue
pictures below, sockets are called "H-G Pull Sockets".
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HUBBELL-GRIER
Socket shell
Patent
Approved July
30.01
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The
First Product Catalogue Dated 1901
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The
presence of this new catalogue at this date and time, leads
me to believe that Grier may had offered his part in this
partnership as a sort of marketing manager with promises of
boosting sales. It could also be that Hubbell had a bad experience
with this partnership which may have acted as a life lesson
to him in these early years, to never assign his inventions
to a Company again. It is also possible that there was a personal
dispute along with threats to take control the Company or
products.
I do not know why, or what problems Harvey Hubbell could have
experienced, but one thing for sure is that during his life
he NEVER assigned another invention to ANY Company name. EVERY
other patent is solely assigned to the PERSON "HARVEY
HUBBELL".
This was also carried down to his son who took the Company
over after his death on December 17, 1927.
Harvey Hubbell Jr. was 26 years old at this time and had already
spent years working in the Company and being taught by his
father.
It took many years for Harvey Hubbell Jr. to finally start
assigning his patents to the Company. All of his patents are
solely owned by the PERSON "Harvey Hubbell Jr."
until 1938 (in a patent approved on 05/10/1938) at which time
he for unknown reasons started assigning his patents to "Harvey
Hubbell, Incorporated".
Note: I have found MUCH more information on the topic of Hubbell-Grier
and will be adding it with a future revision to this page.
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